Provoking/Punishing Your Children? When is too much?

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Recently in the news we have notice an outbreak of events that have sparked the attention of many people through the social media networks. We have seen an increase of police abuse and also Pastor’s been caught not walking the talk. One example is Pastor Creflo Dollar which was recently arrested for “punching his daughter in the face”. Now I don’t know what happen to this brother in Christ but I do know that when you loose control of yourself is one thing but standing firm behind it without conviction is something else. I recently posted a blog title What the Bible Says about Talk and to tell you the truth, it really helps to know what is the Lord telling us about keeping it cool in times where we are about to loose control of ourselves. The tongue could get us in so much trouble and usually physical abuse would follow right after unless we control our anger against our children or friends.

In the report of this incident, the minor stated that is not the first time that she gets chocked or punched and this brings me back to a questioning mode about how the devil is working on our weaknesses and making us stumble and with this bringing glory to his evil plans which are to have people question the church of Christ. I need to say that none of us humans beings are perfect and free from sin. We all make mistakes and none are safe from satan’s attacks as it’s explain on this blog title Satan is eager to destroy you we all need to be ready to put the armor of God and stand firm against all the strategies of the evil one. Ephesians 6:10-18

But how much is too much?

 If a person makes a mistake and later on he ask for forgiveness then we should forgive this person. As it’s explain on this article title Forgiveness is not an option but a command. But if this person stays firm and try to justify to the rest that what he did is okay then this person needs to really be punish as a Pastor many people will follow and believe what he says and God won’t be very please to see that you now are been a vehicle for satan. As Pastor Creflo Dollar wrote on his Facebook page “Good morning Everyone, as a father I love my children and I always have their best interest at heart at all times, and I would never use my hand to ever cause bodily harm to my children. The facts in this case will be handled privately to further protect my children. My family thanks you for your prayers and continued support.” This statement contradicts what it was shown on the local news but should we forgive? Yes absolutely! Is satan involve? Yes all the way. The daughter’s behavior might have been unacceptable and guess who was behind it?

“If another believer sins, rebuke that person; then if there is repentance, forgive. Even if that person wrongs you seven times a day and each time turns again and asks forgiveness, you must forgive.”
Luke 17:1-4


So how can we handle our kids in a better way that we wouldn’t put ourselves in this situation?

 As Parents, we are not to provoke our kids. Specially when there is an argument already getting heated. We are to be the greater person and we must bring glory to our God by remembering what the Lord said on the scriptures:

Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger by the way you treat them. Rather, bring them up with the discipline and instruction that comes from the Lord.
Ephesians 6:4


As children of our heavenly Father, we must be obedient to our parents. We are to honor them all the time as it is written in the first commandment which also comes with a promise. If you are an obedient child, you will not have your life cut short because the Lord disciplines you for your rebellion, but you’ll live a full long life.

Children, obey your parents because you belong to the Lord, for this is the right thing to do. 2 “Honor your father and mother.” This is the first commandment with a promise: 3 If you honor your father and mother, “things will go well for you, and you will have a long life on the earth.”
Ephesians 6


So let’s re-focus

 Let’s understand what the enemy is trying to do in our lives and our homes. Satan is after our families and will not rest and will rejoice when he destroys Christian families and marriages. Let’s not focus on the news but let’s concentrate on prayer. Let’s not judge but let’s forgive each other as many times as it takes. Let’s move on and accept our mistakes and let’s get on our knees and ask God for forgiveness. Let’s lose the shame and let’s make our petition publicly as much as privately. Whatever it takes as long as we humble ourselves to the higher power of our Lord Jesus Christ.

So what is your stance on this topic? Do you think is okay the way that Pastor Creflo Dollar handle the argument with his daughter? Are you the type of parent that punish their child or do you talk to them and pray when they don’t want to listen?

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  • Jane Godfrey

    The Bible very clearly states, you should not be disciplining your children in anger. Punching and choking is a no go and is not permitted, period. This is not disciplining a child in the ways of Christ. If you ask me, more and more Christians who have more than they know what to do with, as in nice things, without any real accountability, are no different to the rich non-Christians and as we put it here in the UK, ‘they have more money than sense.’ It’s almost as if the Greed for money and nice things has taken over biblical or common sense. Rather than seeing their nice homes, cars etc as a blessing from the Lord and using it to fulfil His Kingdom, they’d rather line they’re own pockets. As the Lord intended from the start, He comes first, then family, always, then as far as I am concerned, helping those that need the Lord, whether rich or poor and ministry. It would seem many high powered unbiblical ministries in this day and age have got it all upside down and have lost sight of what is truly important in the sight of God. Think it’s time some of them got back to Bible basics and bring themselves back in line with God’s Word before they can move any further forward.

  • Mita Gomez

    Actually, as what I observe most PK, pastor’s kids are vulnerable. That’s why we as members need to cover them with prayer. They can be use by the enemy, to attacked the parents. It’s not really advisable for a mother to be full time also in the ministry. So
    that she can monitor her children. she should not level herself in the ministry.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      @f32e120d146d7bf7ab6168ec113163fc:disqus thank you for sharing that sister. May our Lord continue to bless your day in Jesus name.

  • spreadlove

    In my opinion, there is a thick line between abuse and just a whooping. A whooping ot discipline you child does not involve choking or punching or any other physical abuse that would leave a print after or that would cause severe pain right after. During my free time, i stumbled over a passage in proverbs 23 verse 13 and 14 which stated “Do not withhold discipline from a child; if u punish him with a rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.” My understanding of this is if the child acts up, i feel as though its ok to give them a little tap tap or a stern talking to to make them understand that what they are doing is wrong. But getting to the point of physical abuse, that is way over the limit.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      @46546364b65765bce7c8233971b7e367:disqus I agree. We must set a limit for everything. I think is best to win our kids with firm love then physical abuse. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! God bless you always! :D

  • Cinnamon Vega

    As a mother to an 18 month old daughter I feel I have a duty to God and to her to protect her, love her and care for. I cannot speak for this particular pastor but I can speak from my experience as a mother. Having been pregnant with my daughter and feeling her grow everyday in my womb I knew she is part of my flesh and God create her because of the love that I share with my husband. I want to give my daughter the tools in Christ to succeed in this world and that is knowing and accepting Jesus Christ. My prayer for her is to know we will always support her and love her. I personally will never hit her because I know she is a blessing for God Almighty. I am grateful for her and truly blessed to have her in my life.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      @b829332e3da1fba3ce9b19bce303cf8e:disqus wow very nicely said. Thank you sister for sharing your heart with us. You have the right vision on how and what to teach your kids. God bless your heart and your family.

  • http://allthefriends.wordpress.com allthefriends

    This was very thought-provoking to me. I have witnessed this sort of thing in my own home and evil is certainly involved in the escalation that occurs.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      Indeed there is no way that a person is in the right spirit and at the same time could be in a rage mode trying to punish their kids. Our God is bigger and stronger than any evil spirit in this planet. I pray for all of us to have spiritually blessings from the Holy Spirit to give us strenght thru this times of corrections. God bless and thank you for your comments. :D

  • Katherine Shinall

    THIS IS THE SEASON OF EXPOSING,&REMOVAL.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      Tha’s exactly what the devil wants but our Lord Yahweh has teaches us thru His son Jesus Christ to forgive as many times as someone comes and apologizes. So let’s humble ourselves and let’s forgive the ones who have hurt us in Jesus name. God bless

  • tereasamansfield

    This is an interesting subject. I have not heard this story, yet, but I know it is not uncommon. Anger is poison in any relationship. We have a child with special needs that cause him to be very irrational and easily angered. It could be very easy (and is very tempting) to use anger against him, but the only thing that works is love and patience. Here is a thought provoking sermon about anger by S.M. Davis. It has changed many lives. http://www.biblepreaching.com/davisanger_mp3.html

    God bless!
    Tereasa from hispenonmyheart.com

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      Well said sister. Thank you for sharing with us. May our Lord gives you strenght and patience to be able to keep yourself and yours calm in time when the devil is really pushing your buttons. I pray for wisdom and understanding in your life and the life of your love ones in Jesus name. God bless

  • Katherine Shinall

    Prophecy is being fufilled.We havePulpit Pimps.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      The times are changing but we should focus on the prophecy being fullfilled and let’s punch back with love and understanding in all we do. Prayer works so let’s use it. God bless you :D

  • terry kaseke

    totally 100% behind Creflo, why? Because kids know they can lie and get their parents in trouble by claiming abuse. Have seen it 1st hand and it destroys families outright.

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      sorry to hear that you have experience that before. I respect your opinion but do you think abuse is more powerful to change a kid or would you be okay with giving love and prayer a chance? I think the Lord has our backs and we need to seek to Him for help with our kids in a good manner and not by us also sinning. Thank you for your comment. :D

  • Oviyanda Sims

    God’s word also tells us to discipline our children if we love them. God diciplines us because he loves us. that is the problem with all the out of control children today is lack of discipline. If some of those disrespectful children that think they know better would occassionally get their behinds whooped to get their attention just maybe Satan would not have an open door into their lives.The Spirit of Jezebel and her daughter have their minds set on taking out that generation and so far they seem to be winning.We need to step up our spiritual warfare against this before we loose this whole generation.That spirit is trying to take them out through that rebellious spirit,sexual imorality, homosexuality, drugs and alcohol, sucicides, disrespect to parents and at this point she is doing a darn good job of it. Children of God stop with the political correctness….loving our children does not mean letting them do what is wrong, nor is it accepting whatever they dish out and saying that is just who they are. No that is not who the Father created them to be. Folks this is the only generation with a promise on their heads since Jesus died… they are a royal seed and that is who Satan is after. This is war spiritual war. The choice is yours will you lay down and just accept what the enemy is doing under the guise of political correctness or will you put on your armor and fight?

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      I agree to a certain point. In my opinion, there are many ways to correct our children. I do not think you need to hit them but talk to them. They will not change because you keep hitting them but they rebel and become worst. The power of love should be brought into place instead of the belt. We win people by loving them and not by abusing them. We should also pray for them in a daily basis as we could do only so much and then God has to step in and take over when they are out of control. God bless and let’s keep praying for our kids and also ourselves so we could learn how to better guide their lives. Stay bless :D

  • Jack S.

    “We have seen an increase of police abuse and also Pastor’s been caught not walking the talk. One example is Pastor Creflo Dollar which was recently arrested for “punching her daughter in the face”.”

    1. That would be *his* daughter
    2. From a purely objective standpoint, saying Creflo Dollar has been “caught” in anything is purely sensationalistic and without substance. All you or anyone else “knows” is what you have read in the media.

    Do you believe the media is 100% objective in their reporting?
    Do you believe law enforcement personnel are 100% honest in writing their reports and carrying out their duties?
    Do you believe in rendering conclusions as you have here without being an eyewitness to the incident or hearing all of the evidence from both sides?

    C’mon sir, you don’t know, you weren’t there. Therefore you are not qualified to render the conclusions you have put in to words.

    • James George

      I totally agree with you. So many people are quick to judge and talk without knowing the facts. That’s a form of gossiping you know?

      • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

        Thanks James but again the point of this blog is to get an example, switch it around and kick the devil by showing his dirty plans and tricks he has for us. But our God is stronger and this is nothing to make us look bad but is to understand the tactics of the devil and to support each other as we see this type of tricks coming out more into the public. God bless you and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment. :D

    • http://GoingAfterOne.com/ Rigo Campos

      Thank you brother for the correction. I agree with you and if you read the entire blog post, you will see the point of the article. God bless you and thank you for sharing with us your thoughts.

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